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SUMMARY:Philosophical Wonder
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DESCRIPTION:Saved in Palaner as: saved\n\nPalaner match: 32% · why: lots of
  people going\n\nSocrates said that "philosophy begins in wonder." What is
  this experience of wonder and why is it so important for philosophy or\, 
 more generally\, the love of wisdom?\n\nStarting with Aristotle\, many phi
 losophers have thought of philosophical wonder as a sort of puzzlement tha
 t prompts us to seek out new\, better understandings of ourselves and our 
 world. From this point of view\, although philosophy begins in wonder\, it
  seeks to overcome it. Understanding dispels puzzlement and with it our wo
 nder. Plato had a quite different view. For him\, the love of wisdom begin
 s in wonder and is sustained by it. We will explore why he thought this an
 d how it might affect our understanding of education and inquiry.\n\n-From
  Gabriel Richardson Lear\n\nThis will be an open-ended discussion based on
  the ideas introduced in the videos or the quotations posted below.\n\nPle
 ase watch this 2018 talk\, starting at 9min 48seconds: HERE\nOr read it HE
 RE\n\nOptional: If you have time\, watch her 2013 talk on philosophical wo
 nder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btmk-jvksOw\n\nQUOTES ABOUT WONDER:\
 nTheaetetus\, 155d: "For this feeling of wonder shows that you are a philo
 sopher\, since wonder is the only beginning of philosophy\, and he who sai
 d that Iris was the child of Thaumas made a good genealogy"\n\nAristotle (
 Metaphysics I.2\, 982b): "For it is owing to their wonder that men both no
 w begin and at first began to philosophize\; they wondered originally at t
 he obvious difficulties\, then advanced little by little and stated diffic
 ulties about the greater matters\, e.g. about the phenomena of the moon an
 d those of the sun and of the stars\, and about the genesis of the univers
 e."\n\nRené Descartes (The Passions of the Soul): "Wonder is a sudden surp
 rise of the soul which makes it tend to consider attentively those objects
  which seem to it rare and extraordinary.”\nThe special usefulness of wond
 er lies in its getting us to\nlearn and retain in our memory things that w
 e previously\ndidn’t know. We wonder only at what strikes us as unusual\na
 nd extraordinary\, and something will impress us in that\nway only if we h
 aven’t before known of it or anything like\nit. . . . But when something t
 hat is new to us comes before\nour intellect or our senses\, we won’t reta
 in it in our memory\nunless the idea [see Glossary] of it in our brain is 
 strengthened\nby some passion\, or perhaps by a special state of attention
 \nand reflection that we choose to adopt. When something\nstrikes us as •g
 ood or bad\, there are other passions that can\nmake us focus on it\; but 
 when something strikes us merely\nas •unusual\, all we have is wonder. Tha
 t is why people who\naren’t naturally inclined to wonder are usually very 
 ignorant."\n\nThomas Aquinas (Summa Theologica I-II\, Q. 32\, a. 8): "Wond
 er is a kind of desire for knowledge\; a desire which comes to man when he
  sees an effect of which the cause either is unknown to him\, or surpasses
  his knowledge or faculty of understanding.”\nBecause philosophy arises fr
 om awe\, a philosopher is bound in his way to be a lover of myths and poet
 ic fables. Poets and philosophers are alike in being big with wonder.”\n\n
 Alfred North Whitehead (Modes of Thought): "Philosophy begins in wonder. A
 nd\, at the end\, when philosophic thought has done its best\, the wonder 
 remains.”\n\nLudwig Wittgenstein (Culture and Value): "Man has to awaken t
 o wonder — and so perhaps do peoples. Science is a way of sending him to s
 leep again.”
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